Is Wagner bad for us?
The LRB Podcast
London Review of Books
4.4 • 582 Ratings
🗓️ 10 April 2013
⏱️ 77 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | You're listening to a London Review of Books podcast. |
| 0:20.7 | Looking for an object in the British Museum to serve as an emblem for this talk. |
| 0:26.9 | I came across the bronze medal of Erasmus made in Antwer in 1519 by the artist Conteimates. |
| 0:36.6 | On the front of the medal, there is a portrait of Erasmus in profile. |
| 0:41.7 | On the reverse, the smiling bust of Terminus, the Roman god of boundaries, and the words |
| 0:47.3 | concedo nulla are yield to no one. It said that Erasmus kept a figurine of the God terminus on his desk. He wrote, |
| 0:58.0 | Out of a profane God, I have made myself a symbol exhorting decency in life, for death is the |
| 1:03.8 | real terminus that yields to no one. To lecture on Wagner under the watchful eye of the God terminus |
| 1:10.1 | seemed like a very good idea. |
| 1:11.6 | As a tutelary spirit, he might help set limits to an impossibly large subject, as well as reminding me not to keep you here all night. |
| 1:18.6 | But if it has been prudent to keep the God in mind, it has also seemed appropriate, since like anyone who has spent time thinking about Wagner, I have inevitably come back to the subject of boundaries and limits, |
| 1:31.3 | and in particular to questions about the boundary that lies between Wagner's works and his listeners, |
| 1:37.3 | and about the experience apparently not uncommon, |
| 1:39.3 | of that boundary becoming blurred or even disappearing altogether, |
| 1:43.3 | an experience that may hold a clue to the feeling also not uncommon, |
| 1:48.0 | that Wagner's work is in some sense not altogether good for us. |
| 1:56.0 | It's hard to imagine Wagner keeping a statuette of terminus on his desk except to mock. |
| 2:06.0 | Respecting boundaries was not his thing. Transgression he took in his stride, stealing other men's wives when he needed them, borrowing money from people without bothering to pay it back, |
| 2:10.9 | while artistically his ambitions knew no bounds. There's something quite all inspiring about |
| 2:15.7 | his productivity under hostile conditions. |
| 2:18.4 | The way, though living on the breadline, he turned out masterpieces |
| 2:21.8 | when there was no reasonable prospect of any of them being performed. |
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