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The LRB Podcast

David Runciman: American Democracy

The LRB Podcast

London Review of Books

Society & Culture

4.4582 Ratings

🗓️ 21 March 2013

⏱️ 81 minutes

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David Runciman discusses the impossibility and persistence of the US political system in the LRB Winter Lecture delivered at the British Museum in 2013. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Thank you very much. I hope you can hear me okay. There are going to be a few numbers in this, but not too many. I'll just give you one number to start with, which is that I've been asked to talk for an hour. I feel I should warn you about that. And I will stop after an hour, I promise, and maybe slightly before. I want to start with what may be a statement of the obvious.

0:21.6

American democracy is an amazing thing.

0:25.6

It's amazing, it's fascinating, it's bewildering.

0:29.6

It's always struck people as amazing.

0:31.6

There's never been anything quite like it, even in the world we live in now,

0:35.6

where democracy is a far more widespread phenomenon than it used to be. There's nothing quite like it, even in the world we live in now, where democracy is a far more widespread

0:37.7

phenomenon than it used to be, there's nothing quite like American democracy.

0:43.4

I think to start with, at the beginning of the American Republic, what people found most amazing

0:48.3

about it was just its sheer implausibility. The idea that you could actually do politics

0:53.3

like this with this kind of relentless,

0:56.0

chaotic, popular input. And it was also implausible at the beginning, particularly in British

1:02.2

eyes, because it was so obviously bogus and fraudulent because of slavery. Slavery made

1:07.7

a mockery of the ideals of American democracy. And outsiders could see that very clearly, insiders not always.

1:14.9

Then in the second half of the 19th century,

1:16.6

I think what really fascinated people about American democracy

1:20.4

was its incredible capacity for violence.

1:23.6

The civil war was this truly cataclysmic event.

1:27.2

And Europe, which had seen its fair share of wars over the years,

1:30.6

had never seen anything like that, that kind of industrial slaughter,

1:34.8

until the first World War, which was in many ways Europe's civil war,

1:40.4

until the Americans joined in in 1917, at which point it became a world war,

1:45.0

and that then initiated the next phase of fascination with American democracy,

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