4.6 • 870 Ratings
🗓️ 14 May 2025
⏱️ 84 minutes
🔗️ Recording | iTunes | RSS
🧾️ Download transcript
Donald Trump is rumored to have a plan to receive a $400 million plane from Qatar, retrofitted to serve as Air Force One. On its face, it’s a straightforward diplomatic gift to the United States, meant to replace aging presidential aircraft. But the controversy kicked into overdrive with reports that this plane could eventually end up in Trump’s hands personally, via his presidential library. That’s where things get murky.
Let’s start with facts. The two current Air Force One planes have been flying since the George H.W. Bush era. They’re overdue for replacement, and Boeing was contracted to deliver new ones. But Boeing’s been a mess—delays, scandals, technical issues. Trump, frustrated with the pace, toured a Qatari 747-8 already fitted for luxury use. This plane is 13 years old, but still valued around $400 million.
Politics Politics Politics is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.
Now, Qatar is a massive buyer of American military hardware. We’re talking $26 billion in purchases over the past decade. In that context, a $400 million jet as a gesture of goodwill isn’t shocking. What makes this different is the personal angle. According to ABC’s original report, Trump’s library would receive the plane by January 1, 2029 — before Trump’s successor takes office, and potentially before Boeing’s replacements are ready. If true, that would mean Trump gets to keep a retrofitted Air Force One for personal use, while the next president is stuck with the old models.
For me, that’s the red line. If Trump forces his successor to downgrade because he took the new plane for himself, that’s blatant self-dealing. If the plane stays in the rotation until Boeing delivers, and only then moves to his library, it becomes more of a vanity project — still unusual, but not unprecedented. Reagan’s old Air Force One is parked at his library, after all. You can even see it in some of Trump’s old debates, the ones held at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library.
But Reagan’s plane wasn’t transferred to him personally right after his presidency. It stayed in service until Clinton’s term ended before being disassembled and reassembled in Simi Valley. Trump’s timeline — if ABC’s reporting holds — would be far more aggressive, and far more self-serving.
The frustrating part is how little clarity we’ve gotten. Most coverage fixates on whether it’s “appropriate” for Qatar to give the U.S. a plane. That’s not the interesting question. The real issue is when Trump plans to take personal control of it. That’s what determines whether this is normal diplomatic horse-trading — or brazen corruption.
Until we get a straight answer on that, this story stays in limbo. Potential scandal or overblown noise — we just don’t know yet.
Chapters
00:00:00 - Intro
00:03:55 - Qatari Plane Deal
00:18:10 - Update
00:21:19 - John Fetterman
00:24:52 - David Hogg
00:27:13 - Inflation
00:31:11 - Interview with Matt Laslo
01:17:52 - Wrap-up
Click on a timestamp to play from that location
0:00.0 | On this edition of the program, Donald Trump's Qatari plane, inflation is lower than it has been since 2021. |
0:09.2 | Will at last, we don't know. |
0:10.6 | And Matt Laslow joins us to discuss all of the conflicts over the big, beautiful bill. |
0:17.3 | It's all coming up. |
0:20.9 | The following is brought to you by just another pilot. |
0:28.1 | Politics, politics, politics. Hello and welcome |
0:46.3 | to the politics, politics, politics program for May 14th, 2025, your old pal, |
0:53.2 | Justin Robert Young joining you from Austin, Texas. |
0:58.0 | Free! |
0:59.7 | Free at last, free at last from the confines of the Travis County Courthouse, as I am now no longer subjected to judging the, well, not judging, I was jurying, jury rigging, |
1:19.4 | the case, not jury rigging, right? Because that has a specific connotation. Anyway, |
1:25.0 | I'm done with jury duty. That lasted from Monday to Friday. |
1:28.5 | It totally screwed up our week last week. |
1:30.3 | I was not able to get you a Friday episode, |
1:33.8 | and I just want to let you know. |
1:35.9 | Go listen to the most recent great night when it comes out this week, |
1:39.9 | because I will be talking about the case in full, |
1:43.0 | and I just want you to know how ridiculous it was. |
1:47.1 | It was a truly, truly ridiculous conceit. |
1:51.2 | Anyway, I'll save it for there so I don't pollute all of my channels with the nonsense. |
1:58.6 | We are going to talk about the big beautiful bill on this episode. |
2:04.3 | Matt Laslo, the rogue mercenary of Capitol Hill. |
... |
Please login to see the full transcript.
Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Justin Robert Young, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.
Generated transcripts are the property of Justin Robert Young and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.
Copyright © Tapesearch 2025.