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🗓️ 11 November 2025
⏱️ 44 minutes
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Most company training is a waste of time that turns firms into bureaucratic sludge holes. That’s roughly the conclusion of today’s episode which is a conversation with Andre Spicer and Mats Alvesson
They have a new book out The Art of Less. Andre has been a guest a few times before - way back in 2018. This podcast is old. In 2018 this podcast was ahead of Steven Bartlett’s Diary of a CEO at the top of the podcast charts. (Andre talking about open plan offices)
The idea that much of what companies do is related to their self identity, what the company aspires to be in the world - with the end result that it doesn’t achieve these things.
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| 1:08.9 | Hello, I'm Bruce Daisley. Most company training is a waste of time that turns firms into bureaucratic sludge holes. |
| 1:16.8 | That's roughly the conclusion of today's conversation, |
| 1:19.9 | which is a discussion with Andre Spicer and Matt Alverson. |
| 1:24.4 | They've got a new book out called The Art of Less. |
| 1:29.1 | Andre's been a guest a few times before, actually, way back in 2017, I think he was an episode, guests twice. This podcast is well old. |
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