From New York Times opinion, I'm Ross Douthat, and this is Interesting Times.

In the world of online influence, one evangelical Christian writer and podcaster stands out,

offering her audience a blend of politics.

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Theology.

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And lifestyle advice.

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Is Ali Beth Stuckey an example of what religious authority looks like in America today.

What does she offer to her audience of younger religious women?

And why does she think the biggest problem in American politics isn't too much cruelty,

but the wrong kind of empathy?

Ali Beth Stuckey, welcome to interesting times.

Thank you. I appreciate it.

So we're going to try and have a conversation that covers evangelical Christianity, some of the divides within it, its relationship to Donald Trump.

But first, I want to talk about what it is that you do.

So you make a podcast called Relatable.

And the Atlantic wrote a profile of you a little while ago, and I think they called you something like the new Phyllis Schlafly, which is a reference, of course, to the famous female

conservative activists from the 1970s and 1980s. So just to start out, what is it that you do?

Are you a political commentator, a religious teacher, a lifestyle influencer?

Yes, that's a great question. So I try to occupy that space where politics and theology intersects, Christian theology specifically. And I describe myself as a Christian wife and mom who is trying to navigate the chaos of our culture with as much clarity encourages God is willing to give me. And so that does mean talking about

politics. There are seasons over the past few years that I have focused mostly on politics,

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