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Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots, Spectators' Daily Politics Podcast.

I'm Isabelle Harman and I'm joined by Katie Bills and James Forsyth.

Well, the Conservatives are bracing themselves for their conference in Birmingham,

which kicks off this weekend. If they can make it thanks to Train Strikes,

what are we expecting, James?

So you would normally expect the first conference of a newly elected party leader

to be a moment of celebration. But I think the things that have happened in the last few weeks

means that it will be a slightly more tense affair for that.

The Tories go into this conference in considerable political trouble

behind by 30 or points are going to you go up in one poll.

Other pollsters are not as dramatic, but they still suggest a deficit of somewhere

between 17 and 21 and 22 points, which is large and would not lead to a good

result of general action for the Conservative Party.

I think it is worth remembering two things about this conference.

Most of the MPs who are going are ministers who back Liz Truss.

And secondly, the party membership did vote for Liz Truss.

I mean, there is a strong case that she has a mandate for what she is doing

from the party members. But I think the reality of the situation

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