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The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Is Tom Steyer the solution to our dysfunctional politics?

The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Vox Media Podcast Network

Politics, News, News Commentary, Philosophy, Society & Culture

4.511.1K Ratings

🗓️ 3 February 2020

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Tom Steyer has worked for Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley. He made his billions running a hedge fund for decades before moving into progressive activism on causes like democratization, climate change, and impeaching Donald Trump. Now, he is running for president of the United States.  Steyer’s primary message on the campaign trial is that we need to get money, lobbyists and corporate influence out of politics. At the same time, he is the living embodiment of much of what he thinks is broken about our system. He used his wealth as a shortcut onto the presidential debate stage and, in doing so, essentially wrote the playbook for any future billionaire who decides they want a shot at winning the highest office in the land.  So, is Steyer the solution to our dysfunctional politics -- or is he part of the problem? That question is a lot bigger than Steyer himself. It is about the kinds of people we think will best represent the interests of non-billionaires. It is about the sort of influence we think wealth should have in our society. It is about whether, in our current political moment, we want to trust the arsonists to put out the fires they helped create. I’ll let you decide the answer. Book recommendations: The Holy Bible War and Peace by Leo Tolstoy Their Eyes Were Watching God by Zora Neale Hurston The Good Assassin by Paul Vidich New to the show? Want to listen to Ezra's favorite episodes? Check out The Ezra Klein Show beginner's guide. My book is available at www.EzraKlein.com. Also, we’ve announced more tour dates! Go to WhyWerePolarized.com for all the details. Want to contact the show? Reach out at ezrakleinshow@vox.com Credits: Engineer - Cynthia Gil Producer - Jeff Geld Researcher - Roge Karma Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Thanks to WhatsApp for sponsoring this episode.

0:02.8

Have you ever written an embarrassing text

0:04.7

and accidentally sent it to the wrong person?

0:07.5

It's mortifying.

0:09.0

But if your messaging platform isn't secure,

0:11.0

there could be any number of wrong people.

0:13.4

Third parties, intercepting your private messages.

0:16.6

With WhatsApp, you don't need to be concerned

0:18.2

about anyone intercepting your personal messages.

0:20.6

Because WhatsApp's end-to-end encryption

0:22.4

automatically encodes them so they can only be decoded

0:25.2

and read by your intended recipients.

0:27.3

Switch to the app that offers simple, reliable,

0:29.6

private messaging with end-to-end encryption built-in.

0:32.5

Because your personal messages should be private.

0:35.1

WhatsApp, always message privately.

0:38.0

I probably know more about markets than these politicians.

0:40.7

And anyone who thinks that markets are just

0:42.6

or that you can trust CEOs and boards of directors

0:47.0

to save America doesn't know what they're talking about.

0:50.0

That's ridiculous.

0:51.8

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