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The Dispatch Podcast

Is This What Retribution Looks Like? | Roundtable

The Dispatch Podcast

The Dispatch

Politics, News

4.4 • 3K Ratings

🗓️ 24 January 2025

⏱️ 85 minutes

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Summary

Sarah Isgur is joined by Jonah Goldberg and Steve Hayes to react to Donald Trump’s first few days in office and Joe Biden’s final act of lawlessness. The Agenda: —President Trump’s pardons —Is it time to fix the pardon power? —Whose pardons are worse? —Birthright citizenship —Revoking security details —"The Right Is Winning the Battle for Hearts and Minds" —Is conservatism cool now? Show Notes: —Indictment of Genesis Lee Whitted, Jr. —Advisory Opinions on Birthright Citizenship —The Volokh Conspiracy The Dispatch Podcast is a production of The Dispatch, a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a non-partisan, conservative perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including members-only newsletters, bonus podcast episodes, and weekly livestreams—click here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:22.1

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0:27.3

Welcome to the Dispatch podcast.

0:29.0

I'm Sarah Isger, and I've got Jonah Goldberg and Steve Hayes here.

0:33.4

Plenty of news to discuss.

0:49.5

Yeah. Plenty of news to discuss. Look, I want to go,

0:51.1

which one was worse, Biden or Trump's.

0:55.8

Then I want to talk birthright citizenship, not the legal side.

0:58.5

You can go to the flagship podcast for that,

1:00.4

but just the policy of birthright citizenship

1:02.6

and whether it actually is a good idea or not for a country like America.

1:08.0

And then finally, all of the other stuff that Donald Trump has been doing in his

1:14.1

first few hours in office. And a little not worth your time, Jonah, I love this piece you sent on the

1:20.2

cultural ascendancy of conservatives and why that may be occurring. I chuckled at various points. So let's talk about that at the end.

1:32.2

Okay, let's start with pardons. On the one hand, in President Biden's last few hours in office,

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