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What's up? Well, that's good, fam. I hope you're having a great week, but it is about to get

so much better. Today is going to be unlike any podcast we've ever done on both that's good.

And in seven and a half years, it's really cool to say that and genuinely mean that.

This podcast is going to be so cool. And I'm going to give you a little backstory of how I even

got here before I introduced our guests today. So it was about a month or so, probably two months

ago. I was listening to this

podcast with Lee Strobel on the Sean Ryan show, and he was talking about all the stuff that's

been coming out that's really just like proving Christianity's real just by evidence and stuff.

And he was like, I don't know what you think about the shroud of Turin, but you should go study

Dr. Jeremiah Johnson stuff. And it was kind of just like a throwout comment. And I was like, the shroud of touring. I was like, I don't know what that is. I never heard of that. And then I was like, Dr. Jeremiah Johnson. Okay, what is this? And so after I listened to this podcast, I did a little Google search about what this was. And I start seeing it's like the face of Jesus,

the face of the Messiah, all the stuff. And I was like, what in the world is this? I've never

heard of this. How have I never heard of this? And so I got in this kick of listening to Dr. Jeremiah

Johnson's podcast that he's been on and his studies that he's doing. And I was just absolutely fascinated

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