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Marketing School - Digital Marketing and Online Marketing Tips

Is This the Best Vibe Coding Design App?

Marketing School - Digital Marketing and Online Marketing Tips

Eric Siu and Neil Patel

Careers, Business, Marketing

4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 28 October 2025

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

Hosted by Neil and Eric, this episode dives into real-world CRO workflows, using Spiralyze-style A/B test insights to guide changes, and rapid AI prototyping with Alloy.app to keep designs on-brand without endless Figma comments. We cover when to DIY vs delegate, a homepage redesign checklist, why an RFP button signals enterprise readiness, brand-search traffic realities, smarter brand-name PPC, and how to boost podcast revenue with pre-rolls and mid-rolls—all while tracking Gen Z’s shift to social-first search. Key takeaways: • AI prototyping speeds up on-brand CRO changes • Data from winning A/B tests beats opinions • Social-first search is reshaping SEO Chapters: 00:00 CRO workflow vs Figma 00:24 Spiralyze snapshots and winners 01:10 Identifying winning variations 01:39 Communicating and prototyping flow 02:01 Alloy.app natural-language edits 03:19 DIY speed vs delegation 03:45 Naming the tool: Alloy.app 04:36 Brand-safe quick homepage tweaks 05:26 Full homepage redesign plan 06:21 Fast team alignment wins 07:43 RFP button for enterprise 09:02 Brand search traffic insights 11:02 Podcast ad revenue basics 12:33 Sponsors and renewals 13:21 Single Grain brand queries 16:06 Gen Z social-first search 17:13 Smart brand-name PPC setup 17:46 Reddit reputation management 18:50 PPC churn and retention 19:44 Wrap-up and next steps

Transcript

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0:00.0

But by the way, so you know how you and I, like, we still do marketing.

0:03.4

We still do CRO on our websites, right?

0:05.0

So when you do CRO on your website right now, like, are you using, like, Figma to, like, take a snapshot of a page and then comment on what you want change? Like, how do you do it right now? The whole process or just the design? Just the beginning. It's like, I want this changed. and how are you prototyping it right now?

0:22.4

So my buddy Gajan beginning. It's like, I want this changed. And are you pro- how are you prototyping it right now?

0:22.4

So, uh, my buddy Gajan from Spiralize takes a snapshot of any website on the internet that's running an AB

0:29.7

test. Yeah. So if I want to run an A-B test, the first thing I do is I go to him and I'm like,

0:34.4

yo, dude, I need data. What's the winning versions for anything in my industry?

0:40.7

And he'll feed it to me.

0:41.6

And then I take that.

0:42.6

And then I'll take the current version.

0:45.1

And then I'll go and I'll leave edits based on what's won on previous tests.

0:50.6

And when I say he takes snapshots,

0:52.6

let's say there's 100 B2B SaaS companies

0:56.2

and I have a SaaS product. I'm making this up even though I do have a SaaS product. And

1:00.2

there's 100 in my space. You'll go and take a snapshot of every single one that's running

1:05.9

testing script, optimize VW or crazy, you get the point. And then they pinpoint which version became default after the test was over. So they'll do that for many different websites so they can see what tends to be the winning variation versus the variation. He should have that as a product. Yeah, he should. You probably make more money selling that as a product. And then we will then take the data on what's winning and then use that data to then go and adjust what we're doing on our website.

1:33.0

But the key thing, so you just mentioned after you have that data, so after, okay, you've got it like, how are you communicating these changes?

1:40.3

How are you prototyping these changes to send to your team?

1:42.6

Figma.

1:43.2

Okay.

1:43.4

It's all comments.

1:45.0

Great.

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