Is the Trump Regime Crumbling? with Osita Nwanevu
Factually! with Adam Conover
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4.6 • 2.3K Ratings
🗓️ 4 February 2026
⏱️ 87 minutes
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Summary
After the madness of the past decade, it can feel impossible to tell where we’re at in our political story as a country. Between Trump kidnapping the president of Venezuela, his ludicrous threats toward Greenland, and the ICE murders in Minneapolis, are we seeing the literal death of American democracy, or are we seeing the last gasps of a dying reactionary movement that has overextended itself? This week, Adam sits with Osita Nwanevu, a columnist at The Guardian and Contributing Editor at New Republic. Together, they discuss whether we’re in the ashes of democracy or the fertile soil for a better America. Find Osita’s recent book, The Right of the People: Democracy and the Case for a New American Founding at factuallypod.com/books
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| 0:00.0 | This is a headgum podcast. |
| 0:05.0 | I don't know the truth. |
| 0:08.3 | I don't know the way. |
| 0:10.9 | I don't know what to think. |
| 0:13.6 | I don't know what to say. |
| 0:16.6 | Yeah, but that's all right. |
| 0:19.4 | That's okay. |
| 0:22.0 | I don't know anything. |
| 0:27.2 | Hello there. |
| 0:27.9 | Welcome to Factually. |
| 0:28.9 | I'm Adam Conover. |
| 0:29.8 | Thank you so much for joining me on the show again. |
| 0:32.4 | You know, as I speak to you, it's been just a little bit over a year since Trump was inaugurated for the second time. |
| 0:38.9 | And what a year it's been. You know, so much has happened. It's been so much fun tracking all the |
| 0:45.5 | events and the twists and turns with you, you know. So much has happened that it can be hard to figure out |
| 0:50.8 | where we actually are in this moment. Like, are we watching a historically |
| 0:56.3 | unpopular administration finally crumble right in front of our eyes? Or are we watching an |
| 1:02.6 | ongoing and powerful fascist takeover of our country? Which way are the winds actually blowing? |
| 1:10.2 | I mean, on the one hand, we've seen armed thugs, agents of the federal government, |
| 1:15.5 | a virtual private paramilitary force under the power of the presidency, |
| 1:21.0 | occupy and brutalize a major American city. |
| 1:24.3 | In Minneapolis, they've roughed up protesters. |
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