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The Briefing Room

Is the tide turning in the Ukraine war?

The Briefing Room

BBC

News, News Commentary

4.8731 Ratings

🗓️ 17 July 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

It’s been 3 1/2 years since Russia launched an unprovoked invasion of its Ukrainian neighbour. Ukraine’s capacity to resist has depended on two things: its own will to fight and support from its allies. Until January this year the US was one of those allies. Then things changed.

But in the last week President Trump seems to have taken a turn against Russia. The US president said he was “very unhappy” with President Putin over the lack of progress towards a ceasefire agreement to end the war in Ukraine. On Monday the White House announced 100 per cent tariffs on countries which do business with Russia - those tariffs to begin in 50 days time unless a ceasefire with Ukraine is agreed. President Trump also announced that the US would be sending weapons to Ukraine which NATO allies - and not America - would pay for. David Aaronovitch and guests discuss whether the tide is turning in the Trump-Putin relationship and if this could change the course of the war between Russia and Ukraine.

Guests: Paul Adams, BBC World Affairs Correspondent Anton Grushetskyi, Executive director Kyiv International Institute of Sociology Shashank Joshi, Defence Editor, The Economist Angela Stent, Senior fellow at the Brookings Institution and a former US National Intelligence Officer for Russia

Presenter: David Aaronovitch Producers: Caroline Bayley, Ben Carter and Kirsteen Knight Production Co-ordinator: Maria Ogundele Studio engineers: Tom Bartlett and Alyson Purcell-Davis Editor: Richard Vadon

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:08.3

It's been three and a half grim years since Russia launched an unprovoked invasion of its Ukrainian neighbour.

0:14.6

Ukraine's capacity to resist has depended on two things, its own will to fight and support from its allies. Until January this year,

0:23.8

the US was one of those allies. Then things changed. But in the last week, President Trump

0:30.1

seems to have taken a turn against Russia. The US president said he was very unhappy with President

0:35.8

Putin over the lack of progress towards

0:38.0

a ceasefire agreement to end the war in Ukraine.

0:41.6

On Monday, the White House announced 100% tariffs on countries which do business with Russia.

0:47.4

Those tariffs to begin in 50 days' time unless a ceasefire with Ukraine is agreed.

0:52.8

President Trump also announced that the US would be sending

0:55.1

weapons to Ukraine which NATO allies and not America would pay for. So is the tide turning

1:01.6

in the Trump-Putin relationship and could this change the course of the war between Russia

1:06.7

and Ukraine? Step into the briefing room and together we'll find out.

1:23.6

First, let's find out from our World Affairs correspondent Paul Adams what the current situation in Ukraine is.

1:25.0

Paul, you've recently come back from Keir.

1:27.2

How would you describe the situation?

1:30.3

Clearly, the advent of Russia's repeated huge-scale drone attacks on Ukrainian cities,

1:39.0

something which has just gone up and up and up in the last three or four months,

1:43.1

has changed the atmosphere. I think people in Kiev and perhaps in the last three or four months has changed the atmosphere.

1:45.3

I think people in Kiev and perhaps in other cities too had become, if not blazay,

1:50.5

then certainly used to occasional attacks from the air and the kind of sense that there was

1:55.8

a war raging, but generally speaking at a distance.

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