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Left, Right & Center

Is the MAGA crowd losing faith in its leader?

Left, Right & Center

KCRW

352865, News

4.2 • 4.8K Ratings

🗓️ 18 July 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Prior to his re-election in 2024, Donald Trump committed to releasing files related to several controversial investigations, including the Jeffrey Epstein case. Epstein was an alleged sex trafficker who died while in prison in 2019. Epstein’s connections to prominent figures and the suspicious circumstances surrounding his death created fodder for conspiracy theorists on the right. Last week, Trump’s DOJ and FBI announced they would not release the files and would no longer be investigating the case. That announcement has led to massive blowback from the president’s MAGA base. 

The president is facing similar disdain from the MAGA universe over recent decisions regarding the war in Ukraine. After a massive attack of Russian drone strikes on Kyiv, Trump declared Russian President Vladimir Putin had 50 days to agree to a ceasefire. He also promised to ramp up U.S. military support for Ukraine through a NATO agreement. What finally flipped the switch on Trump’s reverent tone for the Russian leader? Is there any ideological strategy we can glean from this move?

Tourism to the United States is down. Is there any connection to the policies of Donald Trump? Should the tourism industry be a concern of the “America First” crowd?


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0:36.2

I'm David Green.

0:37.1

So I would like to remember how Donald Trump portrayed himself while campaigning for a second term. A change agent, he would be, right? One who would blow up the way Washington works and what's more expose the deep state. His supporters, they loved the idea of him, now in charge, finally revealing

0:56.5

the inner workings of a system that harms people, most of all him. It would be full transparency.

1:02.3

Trump committed himself to declassifying intelligence cases and files that generated

1:07.5

conspiracy theories on the political fringes, including alleged sex trafficker Jeffrey

1:12.1

Epstein. Here's Trump on Fox News last year. Some people think that one way to build trust

1:17.7

is to declassify things that everyone's talking about. I know you just talked earlier about.

1:21.8

I don't want to be a conspiracy theorist. So if you were president, would you declassify,

1:26.4

you can answer yes or no to this.

1:45.9

Would you declassify the 9-11 files? Yeah. Would you declassify JFK files? Yeah. I did. I did a lot of it. Would you declassify the Epstein files? Yeah. Yeah, I would. All right. I guess I would. I think that less so because, you know, you don't know. You don't want to affect people's lives if it's phony stuff in there because it's a lot of phony stuff with that whole world. But I think I would, or at least... Do you think that would restore trust? Help restore trust? I don't know about Epstein so much as I do the others. Certainly about the way he died, it would be interesting to find out what happened there,

2:04.8

because that was a weird situation, and the cameras didn't happen to be working, et cetera, et cetera.

2:08.3

But you had go a long way toward that one. The other stuff, I would.

2:14.9

Hmm. I mean, for whatever reason, he was always a little bit squishy on Epstein, but he still fed the MAGA base that loved this stuff. In February, President Trump and

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