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🗓️ 13 September 2024
⏱️ 51 minutes
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0:00.0 | Welcome to Open to Debate. I'm John Don Van. Hi everybody. This week a debate that |
0:04.1 | examines the political and legal implications around a controversial decision |
0:08.0 | from an international court. For this one I'm handing off the moderating reins to |
0:11.8 | Zenya Wicket. |
0:13.0 | Zenya is wise on questions of international affairs, having spent a career working on global issues, |
0:18.6 | including at the White House and State Department. |
0:20.6 | These days she runs her own business, Wicked Advisory, which provides |
0:23.8 | coaching and geopolitical strategy to those in need. I'm delighted she is able to |
0:27.9 | join us to guide this conversation as moderator. Now on to the show and here is Zenya Wicket. |
0:33.4 | Today we're addressing a really complex and important question. Is the ICC's |
0:38.7 | arrest warrant for Netagnahu justified? And because this is such a complex conversation, |
0:44.6 | it's necessary to ground the conversation |
0:47.0 | with some facts. |
0:48.1 | So what is the ICC? |
0:50.2 | Unlike the ICJ, it only targets individuals, and it prosecutes them for issues such as war crimes against humanity and genocide. |
0:59.2 | Where is the case today? |
1:01.2 | Well, it started with the determination by the prosecutor |
1:04.4 | Karim Khan that there was sufficient evidence to prosecute Netanyahu. It's worth |
1:10.5 | noting that he also put the defense minister Galant and three Hamas leaders of prosecution two. |
1:17.6 | And the warrants are really focused on the humanitarian crisis in Gaza, starvation, lack of water, etc. The prosecutor |
1:25.9 | Karim Khan largely sidestepped whether Israel's self-defense response is |
1:31.1 | proportional. But today this debate is not about |
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