Is the Climb Its Own Kind of Arrival? with Jacquis Neal

Past Due with Ana Marie Cox and Open Mike Eagle

Ana Marie Cox and Open Mike Eagle

News, Arts, Performing Arts, Business, Society & Culture, Politics

4.6 • 6.4K Ratings

🗓️ 8 October 2025

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Actor and comedian Jacquis Neal joins us to talk about the strange space between doing good work and still feeling like you haven’t arrived. From voiceover gigs to the long-haul hustle, we explore what it means to trust the process when the results don’t always look like what you imagined. Want more? On the bonus episode, Jacquis opens up about the thing he keeps doing—whether or not anyone’s watching. Subscribe at patreon.com/pastdue for that, plus early access, ad-free episodes, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:46.4	What does momentum really look like in a creative career, especially when the world keeps hitting pause?
0:52.7	For myself, the last times I've had momentum,
0:56.2	something extremely out of my control happened and like knocked you back or knocked me back.
1:02.1	This week we're talking to actor, comedian, host, and creative workhorse,
1:05.2	Jack Heaths Neal about the slow climb, the moments that almost changed everything,
1:09.7	and what it takes to keep going when
1:11.1	the breaks don't break your way. Thumbs down on capitalism, but thumbs up on not being broke
1:18.2	in the capitalist system. We talk about improv, voice acting, creating your own thing, and that
1:24.4	weird space between doing a lot of good work and still feeling
1:28.2	like you're waiting to arrive. As comedians and entertainers, we often always get hacks to come
1:34.0	do things to give our talent and skill. And that's great. That's what we want to do. But I wanted to
1:41.0	have something where I'd be like, yo, come on stage just to have fun.
1:46.5	Just come here to have fun. That's all I want you to do.
1:52.8	The creative economy is broken, but some people are still making it work. We're here to find out how.
1:58.5	I'm Anna Marie Cox. And I'm open Mike Eagle.
2:01.1	And this is past due.
2:11.7	Jakeese, I don't know if you've heard the pod before, but we tend to come in hot.
2:15.5	We have a pretty loaded question we ask is our first salvo to our
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