Hey everyone welcome once again to the Conversations That Matter Podcast. I'm your

host John Harris and we're going to talk about a denomination today or actually

a collection of denominations,

but all under the roof of Lutheran.

I have not spoken about any Lutheran denominations.

And so I think this is a great opportunity

for those who are in the audience, maybe Lutheran and listening.

I know there's at least a few of you out there to get a better understanding of what's happening in your particular neck of the woods.

And so to help me do this, I have asked... in your particular neck of the woods.

And so to help me do this, I have asked

Pastor David Ramirez from St Paul's Lutheran Church

in Wisconsin to help navigate this with me.

Thank you, Pastor Ramirez, for being willing to do this.

Yeah, great to be on. Thanks a lot. And Pastor Ramirez is a Missouri Senate pastor,

and I'm going to put a link in the show notes for those if you want to listen to more of Faster Ramirez after you listen to this particular interview.

You can go to Godestine and find some of his interviews with that particular podcast.

So the link will be in the info section and we're going to talk a little bit about the

Lutheran Church, the Missouri Senate, the Evangelical Lutherans, I don't even know what varieties are all out there.

So maybe you can help us, Pastor Ramirez.

What, when we're talking about Lutheranism, how many denominations are we talking about here?

That's actually a good question, but probably a couple dozen Lutheran bodies are in America,

but the ones of most note are really three.

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