Is Self-Help a Cult? The Attention Economy and Slippery Slope of "Woo"
Being Well with Forrest Hanson and Dr. Rick Hanson
Being Well
4.8 • 2.7K Ratings
🗓️ 19 January 2026
⏱️ 95 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to being well. I'm Forrest Hansen. |
| 0:09.3 | If you're new to the show, thanks for joining us today. And if you've listened before, welcome back. |
| 0:13.8 | We live inside an attention economy, where the loudest and most confident claims tend to become the most popular. |
| 0:22.3 | The person saying this might help some people, some of the time, under certain conditions, |
| 0:27.9 | might be accurate, but most publishers are not exactly lining up to give that person a book deal. |
| 0:33.4 | This secret changed my whole life in 30 days. |
| 0:36.4 | Now we're talking. |
| 0:41.5 | Big, simple stories about one root cause or one magic method usually spread a lot faster than the careful language that we used |
| 0:47.0 | about evidence and effect sizes and limitations and, you know, exciting things like study design |
| 0:52.6 | in our previous episode in this miniseries. |
| 0:56.0 | That creates a pretty messed up incentive structure, particularly when we're talking about |
| 1:00.7 | mental health and medicine and how to live your life. It pushes even well-intentioned people, |
| 1:06.9 | therapists, coaches, and creators toward overclaiming, building soft cults of personality, |
| 1:13.0 | and selling specific tools as if they are silver bullets. |
| 1:16.5 | In this episode, we're going to be talking about how that happens, how authority gets manufactured, |
| 1:21.7 | and why even good approaches can start to drift into what I'll call woo. |
| 1:26.7 | We'll also talk about how to recognize some of the patterns that show up in more cultish or exploitative corners of the self-help world, |
| 1:33.3 | so you can stay open to new ideas, while also being able to protect yourself in a space that is full of both real help and frankly some real nonsense. |
| 1:42.3 | So to help me sort through all of this, I'm joined by |
| 1:44.7 | clinical psychologist Rick Hansen. Dad, how are you doing today? I'm good. I'm psyched about this |
| 1:49.7 | material. I think you're framing and what you've pulled together here for us is truly brilliant. |
| 1:54.9 | And I'm a guy who definitely, I would say, has one leg in the land of the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence |
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