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Is Representation Enough to Feel Seen?

the goop podcast

Gwyneth Paltrow

Self-improvement, Health & Fitness, Society & Culture, Education

4.37.1K Ratings

🗓️ 29 March 2022

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

“For me growing up, the dark skinned women who had a spotlight or were celebrated had to be exceedingly, almost super humanely beautiful,” says culture and film critic Zeba Blay. “You couldn’t just be a pretty dark skinned Black girl.” In Carefree Black Girls, Blay explores the impact Black women have had on popular culture throughout history—and how pop culture has shaped Black womanhood. In this conversation, Blay and Erica Chidi talk about representation and colorism in Hollywood. Blay also explains what it means to be a carefree Black girl, where joy comes from, and why she decided to speak openly about mental health. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Don't hold anything too tightly.

0:05.6

Just wish for it, want it, let it come from the intention of real truth for you, and then let it go.

0:13.6

For me, our soul is like it's unbound, it's limitless, but we will use words to limit ourselves.

0:21.6

When people stop believing that somebody's got your back or Superman's coming, we turn to ourselves.

0:29.2

And that's where you become empowered.

0:31.5

Courageous participation attracts positive things.

0:38.4

I'm Gwyneth Paltrow, and this is the Goop Podcast, where we bring together thought leaders,

0:43.6

scientists, healers, creatives, and seekers.

0:47.4

I'm so grateful to be able to interview these bright minds and share their incredible wisdom with you.

0:52.7

And I especially love listening to the conversations that are led by my brilliant co-host and friend,

0:57.8

Erica Chitty.

0:59.0

Erica is the CEO and co-founder of Loom, and she's been a part of the Goop family since the beginning days.

1:05.7

We believe it's simply asking questions and listening has the power to change the way we see the world.

1:11.5

I'll let Erica fill you in on her guest today.

1:16.0

My guest today is film and culture critic, Ziba Blay.

1:19.6

You may have seen her work in the Huffington Post, where she was previously a senior culture writer.

1:24.4

Her work has also appeared in a lure, The New York Times, Jezebel, and more.

1:29.5

Ziba is also the author of the book, Carefree Black Girls, which explores the impact Black women

1:34.8

have had on pop culture throughout history, but also how pop culture has shaped the experience

1:39.8

of being a black woman, including herself.

1:42.2

In this episode, Ziba and I talked about what it means to be a Carefree Black girl,

1:47.8

where joy comes from, and whether representation is enough to make a person feel seen.

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