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Good evening. Papers, please. Most of the war and spy films ever made seem to have had that

moment. The checkpoint and the driving rain, the Gestapo, Stasi or KGB, menacing in their leather

overcoats, demanding identity documents. Britain was different. Here, as the former master of the rolls Lord Denning put it,

the poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the crown.

Even the King of England can't enter unless he has justification by law.

Privacy sacrosanct ID cards, except in wartime, anathema.

Now it seems ID cards are back on the agenda, digital this time,

being pushed by an influential group of Labour MPs and surveys suggest public opinion,

which is increasingly worried about illegal immigration and benefit fraud.

Attitudes to privacy itself may have changed.

After all, we now bear our souls and sometimes rather more on social media.

The tech companies log everything about us.

Even some of our new air friars, according to which, spy on us and report back to China.

So, should we have ID cards, but more?

Is privacy a moral good on which our very freedom depends?

Can we no longer tell the state to mind its own business?

And does it matter?

That's our moral maze tonight.

Our panel, Anne McKelvin, the executive editor of the news and commentary site Politico,

the chief executive of the NHS Confederation Matthew Taylor, the priest and polemicist, Giles Fraser, and new to the panel,

the former Supreme Court judge, Lord Sumption, Jonathan Sumpson, Giles Fraser, would you object to carrying an ID card?

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