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Back to your Thursday podcast. It's Buckeye Talk. It's Doug. It's Nathan. It's Steven. And we are

talking about the playoff again because we asked our textures. What's up? We asked our textures.

Are you hoping or do you wish that expansion was happening sooner? What do you think is best for

Ohio State? What do you think is best for college football? How do you sort of, what do you think of

when you think about the playoff? Do you think of it through to Ohio State Lens? Do you think of it

through a greater college football lens? Guys, we on the Thursday podcast on the college football

survivor show that I recorded with Shahanjay Harajah on Thursday morning. We did a list of,

we've listed three teams that we thought were sort of most hurt by delayed expansion. And

that's a podcast. That's only for Apple Podcast subscribers. You guys can pay $299 a month to get

the bonus episode each week for that on the college football survivor show. Nathan, neither Shahan

nor I listed Ohio State as one of the teams hurt by the lack of early expansion. And we also sort of

came to the conclusion that like kind of everybody's hurt because it's just less access and nobody,

even Bama, if you think George is going to rise up a little bit, that makes it a little harder

for Bama to make the playoff that, you know, Bama and George have both made it this year. The SEC

has 10 playoff appearances in the eight years of the playoff. It's one of the two years that the

SEC got multiple people. It's not like the SEC gets two teams in all the time. So to pretend like,

well, the SEC will just get two. Even that's difficult. But Nathan, would you contend that Ohio

State should be on a list of losers, of teams really impacted by staying at four teams for

another four years or would Ohio State not rise to the level of many of the other teams that Shahan

and I talked about? Having not listened to that podcast, so I don't, I can't compare and

necessarily team by team, obviously. But I think we've had a little bit of a hard time reconciling

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