Hey deserving of your listeners, we did some episodes in the past about Michael Jackson and whether or not he's guilty or innocent.

And I really had no idea how many people on the internet cared so much either way. Lots of people think he's guilty,

lots of people think he's innocent, and it seems like there's almost no one in

between and that two different groups of people hate each other.

I really had no idea that that was the case.

And when we made these episodes about Michael Jackson,

I posted them thinking,

ah, it's just another episode of Psychology in Seattle,

and boy was I wrong.

For months up until present day, constant emails and comments and people agreeing and people

hating me and you and us for saying certain things. and people would ask to do a follow-up.

And I was people would ask to do a follow-up.

They were like, you got to do a follow-up.

You got to look at the rebuttal against leaving Neverland, and you got to, you got a

you got a you got a follow up because it's irresponsible to not report on the

rebuttal and the evidence that Michael Jackson was innocent.

And I was always like, God, you know, I just never want to talk about Michael Jackson again

on the podcast.

It's been so emotionally taxing to be just attacked over something that I consider to be

not central to my life, you know, and over time, you know, time heals or

time forgets or something and I was like, okay, you know what, let's do a follow-up.

Let's actually look at the evidence that the other side is saying, or, you know know that certain people are saying that Michael Jackson is innocent because of X Y and Z and let's just look at that evidence

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