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Shortwave from NPR. Hey Shortwaivers, Regina Barbara here with special guest Darian Woods of

NPR's Daily Economics Podcast The Indicator from Planet Money. Hey Dare.

Hello Gina, thanks for the nickname. You're welcome.

So we brought you on the show because recently you've

been reporting on a question that's intriguing

and actually very pressing on both scientific

and on an economic level. How can we feed the entire world population, 8 billion going

on 10 billion people sustainably?

Yeah, I mean you could argue that's one of the most important economic issues in the world, hunger. We've grown up with images of famine on our TV

screens and we also hear statistics like about how 10% of the world is undernourished.

And it starts to seem even more alarming,

like when you think about how climate change affects crops.

In some places, it can lengthen the growing season of crops,

but in others, it can also make farming and

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