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Hey short waivers Regina here with special guest, Darien Woods of NPR's Daily Economics

Podcast, The Indicator from Planet Money.

Hey Dare.

Hello Gina, thanks for the nickname. You're welcome. So we brought you on the

show because recently you've been reporting on a question that's intriguing and

actually very pressing on both scientific and on an economic level how can we feed

the entire world population 8 billion going on 10 billion people sustainably yeah I mean you could

argue that's one of the most important economic issues in the world, hunger.

We've grown up with images of famine on our TV screens, and we also hear statistics like about how 10% of the world is undernourished.

And it starts to seem even more alarming like when you think about how climate change affects crops.

In some places it can lengthen the growing season of crops, but in others it can also make farming and agriculture more difficult.

Crops need more water to offset rising temperatures, more intense wildfires can risk farm and rangelands, and heavy rains can

erode soils and the nutrients they contain.

Yeah, that's quite a list, and that's not even mentioning the increased health risks to farm workers.

Yeah.

And so you have agriculture, which is both a casualty of

and a major cause of climate change.

But there is some good news.

Good, because I think we really need some hope.

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