Hello and welcome back to the you up podcast I'm Jardana Abraham and I am

Jared Frieden it is so good to do back here with you Jardana how are you what's going

on you went with beechy w curls. I haven't worn my hair curly I think on

this show like ever. I don't think so either. When I walked in you know it's one of those things as a

guy who's aware of the female world that you go just don't say anything.

Back away. I I you know because you just don't know what the I'm not even sure what to make of it I don't think I've ever done this before but

What was in what what happened? Aileen and I don't bring any lean into this

Alene and I have extremely curly hair.

Okay. In high school, we had like very intense like ringlets.

We used to use like entire bottles of LA looks to like get our hair.

It would be like sticky.

It'd be like, we didn't really know how to do it.

And since then, you know, once we started wanting men to like us, we felt like at that time you had to straighten your hair.

Right. At the time of puberty, a little fairy godmother comes over and goes,

straighten your hair.

I know, it felt like that was like, it felt, and I and I mean again I'm not saying that it is I think that that's just how it felt at the time like it felt like it was like not as attractive as the girls with straight hair.

Listen I we are of similar generation I'm a little older but like the idea of like the

caroten treat what do they call it the what is it called caroten

treatment and the what was it the the Japanese hair straightening was like a big part

of people's lives and going in every I'm aware of this because I had female

friends growing up and this was this was stuff that got brought up.

Totally and that's kind of like again I don't I don't think that I don't think that

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