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We've got a blockmate's takeover today. We've got those lads back who were with us in December

just before they put out their annual predictions, I think it was, that you were doing,

and it's good to have you guys back.

We can see how many of those have already not worked out in the first month of the year.

Luckily, the market is rallying for once.

It does feel as though we're having a bit of a bounce here, despite broadly a soft-ish week across macro as well.

Great to have you back, guys.

Yeah, how are you feeling about everything at the moment?

Yeah, thanks for having us.

Me, personally, I've definitely calling the bottom on negative sentiment.

So, yeah, I'm optimaxing going into 2026 and beyond.

Yeah, Matt, I love this time. Yeah, we did a couple of shows in the last two weeks where we

realized we were, like someone accused us of being too depressing. And I was like, right,

I don't, we are, we probably need to change the narrative a little bit here then because uh we are market

and industry participants so if even we think that everything is bleak then uh we probably yeah

change the the tide so yeah we've were up the max in as grand said good to be back man thanks

for having us on yeah i i had a i had lunch with somebody yesterday, and he was like, this is the worst I've felt.

I've been in crypto since part of the ETH ICO and was like, yeah, this is just everything, it feels terrible.

But mainly just because it felt as though Travye was like taking over slightly

and his take was just a bit like we've come like super corporate

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