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Religion on the Mind

Is it Deconstruction, or Running Away? (#215)

Religion on the Mind

Religion on the Mind

Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality, Religion

4.7542 Ratings

🗓️ 9 October 2023

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Matthias Roberts joins me again! Previously we talked about healing from sexual shame; this week, he builds a bridge from that conversation to his new book Holy Runaways. After coming to terms (more or less) with sexuality issues, Matthias found that he and many of his friends were still unsure what to do with the whole “faith” thing. What was salvageable, and what were the stakes of ignoring this question? How can we avoid swapping one tribal manifesto for another? Matthias’s Book “Holy Runaways”: https://matthiasroberts.com/holyrunaways/ Matthias’s Book “Beyond Shame”:  https://matthiasroberts.com/beyondshame/ Sexual Shame (#67) with Matthias: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000476415323 To Critique Purity Culture (#22): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000438857512 Denying & Embracing Emotions (#144) with Becky Castle Miller:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000550307589 _____________ Sign up for Tripp and Dan's class, “Live Before You Die: Existentialism in Theology & Psychology”: exploringexistentialism.com _____________ Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.camp Use code: YHPGODPOD at checkout for $25 off! _____________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

My name is Dan Koch. Like many of you, I've been on a complicated faith journey for a number of years now.

0:10.8

And while I tend to find myself on the progressive side of Christianity, my goal is not to make liberal converts.

0:18.0

I want this show to be a resource for Christians to my right and to my left, as well as

0:23.0

former Christians and non-religious folks, anyone who finds themselves asking difficult questions

0:29.2

about God, science, prayer, fate, suffering, evangelism, and more. So many of us have been given bad answers to those good questions, often by people with

0:42.6

pure intentions.

0:44.1

I want to say that you have permission to take both Christianity and the modern world very

0:50.5

seriously.

0:51.7

And I hope to facilitate that by introducing you to people seeking God across

0:56.5

the Christian spectrum, engaging hard questions in a multitude of ways. Thanks for listening.

1:07.8

Matthias Roberts, thank you for coming back to you have permission.

1:12.1

It's so good to be back. Thanks for having me.

1:14.6

If people are newer listeners, they will probably not recognize you.

1:19.7

Your episode is from the early days, and it's about sexual shame.

1:25.2

The book that you had written and published at that time was called Beyond

1:28.8

Shame. And we had a fantastic conversation then. And sometimes when I've got people who have

1:35.1

been on for multiple books, I like to sort of ask this, like make us a bridge sort of a question,

1:40.7

right? So remind us what that book was sort of focused on. And then how,

1:46.5

like, what happened since that got you to writing this new book, Holy Runaways? So beyond shame

1:52.7

was really for folks who had sexual shame or have sexual shame from purity culture, particularly.

2:00.3

Although I think it applies to sexual shame in general, I really focused on kind of that

2:04.7

particular, somewhat Christian way of understanding sexuality or in particular forms of Christianity,

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