Is Israel about to commit war crimes?
The News Agents
Global
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🗓️ 13 October 2023
⏱️ 42 minutes
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Summary
Israeli officials have told Gazan citizens to leave the north and head south ahead of a potential ground invasion - retaliating after a week of war crimes perpetrated by Hamas on Israeli soil. 1.1million people - the number of people roughly in Birmingham, trekking largely on foot, down one of two roads, in the middle of a war. Is that possible? Most think not.
Are many, many thousands of Palestinian civilians about to get caught up in warfare that will see so many lives, on both sides, lost? Israel say they're acting proportionately - but are they about to commit war crimes, and why are British politicians largely happy with this interpretation?
We speak to the former Director of Prosecutions at the International Criminal Court, Fabricio Guariglia, Chair of the Foreign Affairs Select Committee Alicia Kearns, author of The Only Language They Understand: Forcing Compromise in Israel and Palestine & A Day in the Life of Abed Salama: A Palestine Story, Nathan Thrall, and military expert Michael Clarke.
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| 0:00.0 | The Newsagents podcast is brought to you by HSBC UK, opening up a world of opportunity. |
| 0:08.1 | This is a global player original podcast. We're fighting Nazis. We don't target them. Now, the world can |
| 0:16.9 | come and bring them anything they want. If you want to bring them electricity, I'm not going to feed electricity or water to my enemies. |
| 0:24.8 | If anyone else wants, that's fine. |
| 0:26.5 | We're not responsible for them. |
| 0:27.8 | This is the point. |
| 0:29.4 | We've already distinguished between Hamas and the Palestinians. |
| 0:33.2 | I'm asking you very directly, very directly, |
| 0:46.2 | what is going to be done to make sure that those innocent people don't get killed as innocent Jewish people were killed on Saturday? |
| 0:56.2 | Well, we're going to target Hamas and we're telling Hamas that if you use anyone as your human shield and you're going to shoot at us using human shields, that it's their responsibility. |
| 1:01.1 | There has, entirely understandably, been a laser-like focus on the victims of the appalling |
| 1:07.0 | acts of murder and barbarism committed by Hamas in southern Israel a week ago. |
| 1:12.2 | Over 1,400 Israelis are now believed to have been killed. |
| 1:15.6 | More are hostages. |
| 1:17.0 | The internet is awash with deeply disturbing images of, among other things, |
| 1:21.6 | the burnt carcasses of Israeli infants and babies killed in the attacks. |
| 1:26.5 | The sympathy of much of the West has been with the people |
| 1:29.1 | of Israel. It will continue to be. But we are about to enter a very different stage of this young |
| 1:35.4 | conflict, one where Israel is on the attack, not on the defensive, as Naftali Benis, the former |
| 1:41.5 | Israeli Prime Minister alluded to in the clip we just played, |
| 1:45.2 | already, over the course of the week, the Israeli military has dropped over 6,000 bombs on the |
| 1:51.2 | Gaza Strip, a territory about as big as the city of Birmingham, with two and a half times |
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