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The News Agents

How does Israel get its hostages back?

The News Agents

Global

Politics, Government, Daily News, News

4.15.4K Ratings

🗓️ 12 October 2023

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

There are an estimated 150 hostages in Gaza - all ages, all nationalities, some taken from their beds as they slept.

How does Israel even begin to contemplate ground war when so many of its people are the other side of that border?

And how do you begin to negotiate with terrorists when they've broken every rule of war with the sheer evil of their acts? We speak to an expert in hostage negotiation Rachel Briggs OBE.

Later, we discuss the SNP defection to- checks notes - the Conservative party, and we ask whether judges are going to let convicted rapists roam free because our prisons are now full. The former barrister who broke that story for the Times, Catherinke Baksi, is with us.

Editor: Tom Hughes

Senior Producer: Gabriel Radus

Producer: Laura FitzPatrick

Planning Producer: Alex Barnett

Social Media Editor: Georgia Foxwell

Video Producer: Rory Symon

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Transcript

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0:00.0

The Newsagents podcast is brought to you by HSBC UK, opening up a world of opportunity.

0:09.3

This is a global player original podcast.

0:12.9

Without apology, we're going to play you a father's voice. It's deeply distressing,

0:18.2

but it's about the subject that we're tackling today, which is the hostages in Gaza.

0:23.4

And this is one man, one father, talking about his daughter, Emily.

0:28.9

She was either dead or in Gaza.

0:34.3

And if you know anything about what they do to people in Gaza, that is worse than death.

0:41.1

And today, Thomas Hand, who was there speaking to CNN, found out that his eight-year-old daughter

0:50.1

had in fact been killed. And his reaction is, I don't know what word to describe it.

0:59.0

I just said, we found Emily.

1:03.0

She's dead.

1:08.0

And I went, yes!

1:14.4

I went yes!

1:16.2

And smiled.

1:22.4

Because that is the best news of the possibilities that I knew.

1:30.1

That was the best possibly that I was hoping for.

1:34.3

Death was a blessing, an absolute blessing.

1:38.4

It was an expression of unbearable grief born out of the best love.

1:41.5

So today on the newsagents,

1:48.3

we're going to talk about those 150 or so people being held hostage around Gaza, what it means for Gazans as they come under attack, what it means for Israelis

1:55.9

as they try to free their hostages. Welcome to the newsagents.

2:03.7

The Newsagents.

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