Well, joining me now is Dr. Gad sat. He's a scholar at the Declaration of Independence Center for the Study of American Freedom at the University of Mississippi and the author of forthcoming book, Suicidal Empathy.

Gag, great to have you back on Uncensin.

Thank you so much for having me, Pierce.

Look, this is obviously, as we've just heard, a very emotive issue. it's a complex issue, it's a multifaceted issue.

You know, there's no doubt there is an interesting comparison to be made about sheer volumes,

for example, of Muslims in the UK and US. It's about the same number, around 4 to 5 million,

but the US is six, seven times as big as the UK. So clearly we have a lot more Muslims in the UK.

We have a tiny fraction of America's Jewish population. I think America has seven, eight million.

I think it is. In America, we have about 250,000. So they're right there. Just statistically,

we have a very different setup in terms of Muslim and Jewish populations of our

respective countries. But in terms of this whole debate fueled a lot by people of the

conservative right in America, that Britain has been invaded by radical Muslims. Megan Kelly used

that phrase last week with me. And we've lost control to radical Muslims.

I just see no evidence that that is remotely true. That's not to say, I don't think there

have been big issues with the huge influx of immigrants to the UK in the last 25 years.

That is indisputable. It's gone way too far. We lost control of our general

immigration policy. But that doesn't mean we've lost control of the country to radical Muslims,

in my estimation. Look, if you take any disease, say diabetes, when you're first diagnosed with it,

we're not going to amputate your

leg tomorrow, but we know that there is a trajectory whereby we can predict that within a certain

time period, things will go wrong if you don't resolve your insulin issues, right? So it might,

it is absolutely true, you're right, that today Britain remains a non-Muslim country.

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