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Channels with Peter Kafka

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Channels with Peter Kafka

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Tv & Film, Business News, News

4.4585 Ratings

🗓️ 22 June 2023

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Mosheh Oinounou worked his way up through the TV news ranks and ended up running CBS Evening News. Now he’s starting over - this time on Instagram - with Mo News, a platform he says is a more responsive way to deliver news to an engaged audience. Oinounou talks to Vox’s Peter Kafka about the maladies affecting conventional news, the challenge of bootstrapping a news outlet in 2023, and why CNN’s former boss Chris Licht may have gotten at least one thing right. Then, Peter talks to his friend and former co-worker Jason Del Rey about his adventures covering Amazon and Walmart, and how he turned that into Winner Sells All, his deeply researched new book. Featuring: Mosheh Oinounou (@Mosheh), Founder of Mo News Jason Del Rey (@DelRey), Journalist & Author of Winner Sells All Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode More to explore: Subscribe for free to Recode Media, Peter Kafka, one of the media industry's most acclaimed reporters, talks to business titans, journalists, comedians, and more to get their take on today's media landscape. About Recode by Vox: Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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1:05.6

This is Recode Media of Peter Kafka. That is me. In a minute I'm going to talk to Moshe Wunino.

1:12.4

He is a former network news producer who's trying to make his own thing on Instagram and other social platforms,

1:19.0

his own news show. It's called Mo News. Get it. I'm always really fascinated with people trying

1:24.3

to build new media companies on social platforms like

1:28.2

Instagram.

1:29.2

We've also got a special treat.

1:30.8

I'm going to reunite with my friend and former co-worker Jason Del Rey.

1:35.0

He's a guy who knows every nook and cranny at Amazon.

1:37.6

He has turned that knowledge into a new book.

1:39.4

It's called Winner Sells All.

1:41.1

It's about the long-running fight between Amazon and Walmart for your wallet.

1:45.6

You will like that book. You will like our conversation. And that's coming up after I talk to

1:49.8

Moshe Wununu, which is going to happen right now. This is Recode Media with Peter Kafka. I am live in

1:57.4

the studio with Mosch Wununu, who is the founder. Are you a CEO as well?

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