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The Next Level

Is He Guilty? (The Secret Podcast Preview)

The Next Level

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.92.4K Ratings

🗓️ 31 May 2024

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

It's the only question that matters.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey there it's JVL on the secret show with Sarah Longwell today we we talk about the verdict

0:05.8

obviously it's the only thing to talk about we talk about the Trump's guilty verdict

0:09.8

guilty on 34 counts now now a convicted felon.

0:13.0

Here's the show.

0:13.7

To be fair, I did not think it was.

0:21.0

To be fair, I did not think it was a slant done, but I thought the pro- I mean I thought it could have been a hung jury.

0:28.0

I thought an acquittal was basically impossible.

0:30.0

Yeah. Yeah, because the prosecution had made its case.

0:33.7

So the other thing that George said that I thought was surprising is he thinks that

0:41.6

Trump is going to go to jail.

0:43.0

Yeah.

0:44.0

Period of time.

0:45.0

Yeah, I clocked that.

0:46.0

Most, I wouldn't say that, that is not the consensus.

0:49.0

That is the opposite of the consensus.

0:52.0

But, you know I don't discount his expertise I don't

0:58.2

have expertise here's what I felt I got off a plane I had flown back from San Francisco and so I had landed at

1:05.9

Reagan and I was waiting for my Uber and somebody walked by and was like

1:11.0

there's going to be a verdict like they said it to somebody else

1:13.2

and I was like oh my gosh and picked up my phone and then started refreshing and when it

1:19.2

started coming in guilty guilty guilty guilty guilty and all 34 counts that is something that is something and so you know, I felt, I felt very, you know, there, George was sort of when he was talking

1:41.0

about how, oh this was, obviously this is how it was going to go. I was like look man we

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