Is God a Zionist?
A View from the Bunker
Derek Gilbert
4.8 • 528 Ratings
🗓️ 18 May 2026
⏱️ 59 minutes
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Summary
Since October 7, 2023, an element of Christianity has emerged and is growing that holds Israel, and Jews generally, responsible for much of the evil in this world.
At the heart of this is a growing belief that Zionism is something to be opposed, if not outright evil. But what if God is a Zionist (see, for example, psalm 132:13–14)?
Christopher Kuehl (PresentWitness.org), author of the new book Is God a Zionist? joins us to discuss the complex topics surrounding Israel, Zionism, biblical prophecy, and the influence of various political and spiritual forces.
We explore the historical, theological, and geopolitical aspects of Israel’s role in God’s plan and current global affairs—and how modern politics and conspiracy theories influence perceptions of Israel.
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| 0:00.0 | The discussion you are about to see is not a fanciful tale of conspiracies. |
| 0:09.0 | Cover-ups. |
| 0:11.0 | Or secret societies, it is a work of fact based on the accounts of the men and women who did the research, |
| 0:20.0 | or experienced it, and lived to share their stories. |
| 0:25.6 | This is a view from the bunker. |
| 0:36.6 | Since October 7th of 2023, the attitude of many in the Church of Christ, I mean, the body of Christ |
| 0:43.0 | has changed towards the land and the people, the government of Israel. |
| 0:48.0 | What do we in the church make of this? |
| 0:51.3 | How do we process what is happening in the Middle East right now in light of |
| 0:55.7 | Scripture? Welcome to a view from the bunker. I'm Derek Gilbert. This is a topic I feel very |
| 1:00.6 | strongly about if you've watched last week's program, you probably have already picked up on that. |
| 1:06.8 | Our guest will continue this theme this week. He has got an interesting resume. He's worked for Sony |
| 1:14.1 | and Rolling Stone magazine as photographer, founded multiple technology companies. During his first |
| 1:20.3 | stay in Israel more than a decade ago, he heard a word from the Lord telling him that he wanted |
| 1:25.0 | he wanted to build a bridge between Israel and the |
| 1:28.2 | church. What does that mean? Well, he's the founder of Present Witness, which is an organization |
| 1:33.6 | that addresses theological questions between Israel, the Jewish people, and the church. He co-hosts |
| 1:41.5 | a podcast called One New Man, a reference to Ephesians 2. He's the CEO of Restore 7, |
| 1:47.3 | which is an organization that focuses on cultural reformation. And he's the author of the new book, |
| 1:52.4 | Is God a Zionist, Finding God's Story in a World Obsessed with Israel? It's our honor to welcome |
| 1:59.1 | Christopher Keel to the program. Christopher. Christopher, thank you for joining us today. Derek, it's our honor to welcome Christopher Keel to the program. Christopher, |
| 2:01.5 | thank you for joining us today. Derek, it's an honor to be here. Yeah, I'm very excited for this |
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