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Many, many different conversations, mostly about science, technology, engineering, etc.

But sometimes we venture out into the unknown.

And I love to engage with all the most interesting folks in this space, the space space,

and especially excited today to welcome Nick Pope.

So Nick, welcome.

Welcome all the way from Tucson.

We could almost be together.

Yeah, well, thanks for having me on the show. It's good to be here.

Well, it's great to have you here. I enjoyed seeing a lot of your recent appearances. And we'll

certainly get into those out there. But I want to give you a proper introduction while the rest of the crowd kind of comes on

the line here.

And that is to really mention you as the beating heart of the UFO mystery for decades.

You spent 21 years with the UK Ministry of Defense, including a stint from

1991 to 1994, running their UFO desk. I mean, now we can't call them UFOs, right? We have to

call them UAPs now, right? And this was in part for national security reasons, which I really

want to get into. You're an expert on that,

in that capacity as well. What I find fascinating is for all of our, you know, X-Files fans out there, you're often called the real Foxmolder, and you don't deny that. Actually, you lean into

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