Is Codependency Good?

Modern Love

The New York Times

Storytelling, Nytimes, Nyt, Redemption, New York Times, Society & Culture, Loss, Essay, Love

4.3 • 9K Ratings

🗓️ 27 May 2026

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Mark Duplass and Katie Aselton’s lives are completely intertwined. They’ve been married for almost 20 years while collaborating on films, raising children and spending as much time together as possible. The two see the same therapist, are nearly constantly touching each other and find it hard to function when one of them is away, a dynamic they describe as codependent. Their codependency is the inspiration for their new film “Magic Hour,” which they co-wrote and which Aselton directs and stars in. For the couple, codependency has added real depth and beauty to their relationship to the point they think the entire concept needs a rebranding. In this episode of “Modern Love,” Duplass and Aselton make their case for codependency, explain what it has enabled in their lives and share what they’ve had to sacrifice to maintain it.

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0:00.0	Hey everyone, it's Anna. Before we start the show, I've got a question about AI. We want to know if
0:08.1	AI has changed a relationship in your life in some big way, and we want to know how. Maybe you and your
0:14.6	partner kept having the same fight, so you let AI listen in as a kind of couples therapist. Maybe you discovered a friend's chat history and figured out how they were really feeling about you.
0:25.8	Or maybe you needed to impress a girl who you couldn't believe was texting you back,
0:29.8	so you used AI to draft up some witty responses, and then you had to meet up for a real-life date.
0:35.9	We're interested in all types of relationships, romantic, friendship, family, work.
0:41.5	Tell us how you've encountered AI in your personal life, how it changed a specific relationship,
0:46.8	and what you've learned or taken away.
0:49.3	Record a voice memo and email it to us at Modern love podcast at n.y times.com
0:54.6	and we might use your story on the show.
0:56.9	Again, that's modern love podcast
0:59.0	at ny times.com.
1:01.5	Thanks.
1:02.1	We can't wait to hear from you.
1:03.8	Now here's today's episode.
1:05.9	Love now and love.
1:07.2	Love was stronger than anything.
1:11.0	And I love you more than anything. And I love you in love last. Just tell I love. Love was stronger than anything. For the love.
1:11.9	And I love you more than anything.
1:15.2	You're still love.
1:16.3	Love.
1:18.2	From the New York Times, I'm Anna Martin.
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