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Hello! co.uk slash summer. Hello and welcome to the Americano podcast, a series of discussions about American power, politics and society.

On each episode, I will talk to an American expert or an expert on America about something that's

going on in America in 2023. I am delighted to be joined by my friend and spectator-world

columnist and also the editor of Modern Age, which is a very, very good quarterly in America.

And he's called Daniel McCarthy, I should say the name.

Daniel's here in London, and you've been going around to various conservative conferences

and talking to a lot of conservatives.

And you've written a very interesting piece in the New York Post,

which is entitled Britain's Bad Example

for American Conservatives. Give us a little summary of the thesis, please. Yes, I suppose

I'm a little ungrateful to my host there in writing something rather critical of the British Tories.

So I've been in the UK for the past a few days, first of all for a conference at Churchill College in Cambridge on British intellectual conservatism.

And it was interesting that very few of the British intellectual conservatives there were terribly fond of the Tory party.

And in fact, some of them saw the best hope for renewal in British politics coming from the predicted

drubbing of the conservatives at the next election. So it got me thinking about how

American Republicans, the more conservative perhaps of the two parties in the United States,

how they would, you know, they would give their eye teeth to have the kind of tenure in power

that the Conservative Party has had here in the UK.

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