I really think you have to look at the Gates Foundation as a political organization because it's

using its charitable dollars to influence public policy always.

Hello and welcome to Tech Won't Save Us. I'm your host, Paris Marks, and this week my guest is Tim Schwab.

Tim is an investigative journalist who's written for the nation, the Columbia Review Journalism,

the British Medical Journal, among others.

His recent work has focused on the Gates Foundation,

and that's what we'll be talking about today. Throughout the pandemic, Bill Gates has been

treated as this kind of Oracle who can tell us everything about what vaccines should be had,

about the severity of the pandemic, about what kind of response we should be having to protect people.

There's been very little critical attention paid to what Gates has been doing during the

pandemic. And when those voices have received some attention, they've often been treated as

conspiracy theorists or people who are misunderstanding what's actually going on and what

Bill Gates is actually doing. But I think Tim's work is really important because it shows us

the relationships between the Gates Foundation and many media outlets that give it positive

coverage, between the Gates Foundation and many of the private companies that are delivering

the solutions it claims are essential for public health and education around the world,

while being designed to benefit not just those private companies, but in many cases, the actual

endowment of the foundation itself that is invested in those companies. And in particular, between the Gates Foundation and vaccine manufacturers,

where Gates is promoting the idea that we need strong intellectual property and patent protections

or else will have vaccines that will not be very effective and won't work as well,

and that naturally serves the bottom lines of big pharma. As more and more billionaires

look to embark down this path of philanthropy to rehabilitate their images as Gates has successfully

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