From New York Times opinion, I'm Ross Douthat, and this is Interesting Times.

Since Charlie Kirk was assassinated, the conservative movement has fallen into infighting,

with big personalities and institutions at war with each other, with extreme ideas in the mix,

and with a lot of uncertainty about what the right actually stands for.

So, was Charlie Kirk himself actually holding conservatism together?

What unites the movement he helped build now? And what does populist conservatism actually want as we enter the waning years of the age of

Trump? My guest today is Andrew Colvert, who is Charlie Kirk's close confidant. Since the assassination,

he's taken on many of Kirk's responsibilities, including hosting his podcast, The Charlie Kirk Show.

That's placed him in the thick of an ongoing struggle to define Kirk's own legacy and the future

of American conservatism.

Andrew Colvert, welcome to interesting times.

Thank you.

Honor to be here.

So I want to start just by doing a kind of introduction and having you explain your current

role as a steward of the organizations that Charlie Kirk built.

You're part of the leadership of Turning Point USA,

which is the conservative youth organization that Kirk founded.

And you're also, well, you were the executive producer of the Charlie Kirk show,

which Kirk hosted and now you are hosting.

So just tell me a little bit about how you came to be involved with Charlie Kirk in the

first place. Yeah. And I would be remiss if I didn't say that the real reason I'm here is because

we had originally scheduled Charlie to come sit down with you. But I think what you said is probably

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