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Natasha, Kyle, Taylor, good to see you all.

We talked in last week's episode about The Tech tech clash, and Kyle, you were quite prophetic

in your piece for the New Yorker last week, because just as we were posting the episode,

somebody threw a Molotov cocktail at Sandwomen's house.

Yeah, that was a little bit eerie.

I mean, an attempt to destroy something about technology, even though it wasn't the tech itself.

Natasha, how are the Silicon Valley people in some like Sam Haltman and his orbit feeling about this moment?

Well, you know, initially they blamed it on the New Yorker story.

Really?

Yeah, he had a post coming out and he said there was recently an incendiary

article about me. He put a picture of his child. And, you know, subsequently we found out that

the individual, you know, he had been a member of some existential risk groups that are calling for a pause in AI development.

But, you know, his parents also said he was dealing with some mental health issues before that.

I think there's been a blame game about who is responsible for the incendiary rhetoric.

Is it, you know, the ex-riskers who are worried about human extinction, who have been talking about,

you know, what these CEOs and companies plan to do with you?

Or is it Sam Altman and Dario Amadeh, who routinely go on, you know, on every stage imaginable,

every podcast imaginable, and talk about how they are

going to take everybody's jobs and, you know, forever alter the economy and, you know, maybe

they'll throw in a word about UBI every, every six-citizens.

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