Is AI Going to Turn Us All Into Middle Managers?

Galaxy Brain

The Atlantic

Technology

4.5 • 1.2K Ratings

🗓️ 3 April 2026

⏱️ 48 minutes

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How is AI changing the way we work? This week on Galaxy Brain, Charlie Warzel is joined by Johnathan and Melissa Nightingale, two experts in management and leadership training. They discuss how chatbots and AI agents are winding their way through the workforce, offering a firsthand view of how companies are (and aren’t) adopting AI tools. The conversation covers the gap between AI hype and what’s actually happening in offices. It also touches on how overreliance on AI tools may be making bosses worse at their jobs, and how work may be one of the last bastions of sustained social connection in a period of cultural alienation and isolation. Get more from your favorite Atlantic voices when you subscribe. You’ll enjoy unlimited access to Pulitzer-winning journalism, from clear-eyed analysis and insight on breaking news to fascinating explorations of our world. Atlantic subscribers also get access to exclusive subscriber audio in Apple Podcasts. Subscribe today at TheAtlantic.com/Listener. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1:07.1	I'm Charlie Warzel, and this is Galaxy Brain, a show where today we're going to talk about work.
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