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Soteriology 101 w/ Dr. Leighton Flowers

Is Affirming Free Will Damnable?

Soteriology 101 w/ Dr. Leighton Flowers

Leighton Flowers

Baptist, Atonement, Reformed, Bible, Religion & Spirituality, Calvinism, Biblical, Arminianism, Calvin, Christianity, Christian

4.8826 Ratings

🗓️ 14 September 2020

⏱️ 117 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Flowers plays a very interesting and revealing debate between a "high Calvinist" and a "moderate Calvinist" over the necessity of affirming Calvinistic soteriology in order to be born again.

The original debate can be heard here: https://feed.completesinners.com/16

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome back to Sociology 101.

0:13.0

Today we're going to play an interesting debate between, I guess, what you would call a high Calvinist and a lower form of Calvinism, moderate Calvinist, whatever you would like to classify

0:22.9

the different spectrum of Calvinists that are out there.

0:26.1

And what was interesting about this when I was listening to it on my walk was how much it really

0:30.7

revealed about the nature of theistic determinism.

0:34.7

Because quite frankly, even though the High Calvinist in this particular discussion

0:39.4

comes across as very unreasonable and very objectionable, as you can imagine, ultimately

0:45.5

making salvation about whether you adhere to right doctrine with regard to this doctrine

0:52.2

of predestination and theistic determinism, he sounds completely

0:58.8

unreasonable, but nevertheless, he's being consistent within the logic of his system.

1:05.1

If you adhere to theistic determinism, the position that he's arguing for in this discussion makes more sense.

1:13.1

Now, this is, the guy that hosts this, I believe his name's Tyler, it's called the Complete

1:17.7

Center's Guide podcast. Just recently, somebody sent a message to me about him wanting to

1:23.8

have me on the program, and I said, I'd be glad to have a discussion with him. He seems like a

1:26.4

reasonable fella, the moderate Calvinist guy that's hosting this. And he's having

1:29.9

a guest on who is a higher Calvinist, who believes you have to be a Calvinist ultimately. You can't

1:37.4

affirm any kind of doctrine of free will from the Armenian slash provisionist perspective in order

1:42.4

to be saved. You have to adopt their form of sociology in order to really be a Christian.

1:49.5

And Tyler does a pretty good job at picking apart.

1:51.6

I believe that's his name.

1:52.7

I should have probably looked that up a little bit better.

1:54.6

I apologize.

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