Hi and welcome to the Working Songwriter. The show where today's best songwriters come

to talk shop, I'm your host, Joe Pug. Each episode here we host a distinguished guest

and we ask them to go deep on their inspiration, on their process, on the general ups and

downs of making a life in music. So, whether you're a grizzled veteran, haggling with your

merchandise supplier about a 25 cent discount on custom coosies or else a scrappy upstart, haggling

with your roommates about recording your noise rock album in the communal kitchen. This

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