We turn now to our video podcast, Settle In.

Amna Nawaz recently spoke with Erin Carmon, the journalist behind the book The Notorious RBG,

as well as a new book about pregnancy called Unbearable.

It tells the stories of five women in New York and Alabama as they navigate a new post-row

landscape.

Here's an excerpt of that conversation.

The women in my book, most of them, some of them are pregnant more than once throughout the course of the book.

Most of them actually are not looking to end their pregnancies.

They want to keep their pregnancies.

They want to raise their children.

But as I report on in the book and as I tell their stories which unspull over the course

of before, during, and after pregnancy, the way that American medicine and law has been set

up has profoundly limited and harmed and cruelly treated

too many people who find themselves in these situations.

Whether that's needing miscarriage care,

whether that's having respectful and safe birth care,

or whether that's seeking to end a pregnancy.

The fascinating thing about the stories as you share them is that even when you expect

things to unfold in a certain way, because of someone's socioeconomic status or because of where

they live, some of these same things and same challenges and same treatments ring true even there.

And I'm going to unpack all of that. I want to talk to you about some of those silos you mentioned there too. But I have to put to you this one line when you were talking about

why you wanted to write this book in the very first few pages, because this stuck with me. You said

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