Iranian Dissident: “Iranians Don’t Want Bombs” - w/. Sahar Delijani
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Owen Jones
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🗓️ 11 March 2026
⏱️ 29 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Now, I'll be using my platform over the coming days and weeks to speak to people in the |
| 0:04.9 | diaspora, the Iranian diaspora, people who are from Iran, people who have lived the pain, |
| 0:12.6 | the suffering that people in Iran have gone through. |
| 0:15.6 | And obviously, there was this war now going on, and we're seeing obviously hideous scenes, |
| 0:20.5 | not just Iran, but we're seeing a broadening conflict. |
| 0:24.9 | But it's so crucial to have the lived experience of people from Iran at a time like this. |
| 0:32.7 | That should go without saying, but it doesn't always. |
| 0:35.7 | I'm really glad to be able to speak to Sahar Delajani, who is someone who's born in a prison, |
| 0:43.7 | in Evan Prison, in Tehran, where her parents were in prison for years, in fact. |
| 0:51.0 | She's an author, she wrote a very celebrated novel, Children of the Dacaranda Tree. |
| 0:58.4 | I just want to say, first of all, it's great to be able to speak to you. |
| 1:03.0 | You know, these are, this is, I'm aware, the emotional labour that this involves is something |
| 1:09.4 | that people like myself always have to |
| 1:11.4 | appreciate and listen to. So just thanks for joining me at such a difficult time. |
| 1:18.9 | Thank you so much for having me. |
| 1:22.4 | I just want to start. What are you thinking right now? What's going through your head? |
| 1:27.5 | You know, start. What's, what are you thinking right now? What's going through your head? |
| 1:37.3 | You know, these are very, very difficult, difficult period. And also, especially because we, |
| 1:48.1 | I myself, and I think probably a lot of Iranians that I know, we're still grieving. We're still grieving for the 20,000 lives lost in January. All these people who were, all these protesters who were killed by the Iranian |
| 1:54.7 | regime. And there were just still funerals going on in Iran, thousands and thousands of funerals. |
| 2:03.7 | And we hadn't even processed that, that grief, that tragedy. |
| 2:08.4 | We probably will never, I think there's going to be a before and after. |
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