Iran War, Tucker v. Cruz, Apple in China
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🗓️ 19 June 2025
⏱️ 72 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to The Lost of Beta Show for Political Eclectics. I'm Robbie Gupta. And in a little bit, |
| 0:06.0 | we're going to hear from the journalist Patrick McGee, who wrote this book called Apple in China. |
| 0:10.8 | And no hyperbole here. This is one of the most important books to come out in a long time. |
| 0:15.7 | And one of my favorite interviews we've done. And it's all about the history of Apple as a company, but really |
| 0:21.3 | its supply chain and its entanglements with China. And you will learn a lot in that interview. |
| 0:26.7 | Patrick is awesome. He's super knowledgeable. And the book is honestly like a true contribution to |
| 0:33.4 | my understanding of the world. Like my, you know, my little world where I'm dependent like you |
| 0:38.5 | are probably on Apple products, but really just like geopolitics and economics and corporations. |
| 0:44.7 | So stick around for that. But obviously we've got a lot going on in the world and I'm going to |
| 0:48.7 | empty my notebook. Let's start with this Iran situation. This is a serious, serious situation. So obviously, you know, when we talk about things like the Musk Trump fight and we're like reading tweets and talking about erratic behavior and all that, like I mentioned then that was serious. It could have serious implications on all kinds of areas of American policy. But this Iran situation, honestly, |
| 1:13.4 | like even in the next 24 hours, next few hours, could escalate beyond something we haven't |
| 1:18.8 | seen in a long time. And let me give you a rough timeline of what we know right now, |
| 1:24.5 | of U.S. involvement in what Israel has been doing in Iran. And so what we know so far |
| 1:32.5 | is that earlier this year, Trump sent a letter to the Supreme Leader of Iran, basically saying, |
| 1:36.8 | let's make a deal. And if we can't make a deal, bad stuff is going to happen. And we don't know |
| 1:42.3 | the exact wording of this letter as of this recording, |
| 1:45.1 | but we do know from reporting that Trump has, he loves this letter and has been reading it to |
| 1:50.5 | people who visit him. And so he wrote this letter basically saying, let's make a deal. Now, |
| 1:56.3 | people like us from the Obama administration, like me, worked in foreign policy and the Obama administration, |
| 2:01.6 | and, you know, I don't want to overstate my involvement in the Iran negotiations, but I was at the |
| 2:05.6 | UN during the early days over things like negotiations, over sanctions on Iran, and a lot of people |
| 2:11.3 | I know are involved in the Iran deal during the Obama administration. A lot of us were like, |
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