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Hello and welcome back to the Americano Show. My name is Freddie Gray. I am the deputy editor of the spectator and the US editor. And I'm pleased to tell you that this is the 10th year of the

Americano podcast. And I think it's fair to say it's been a fairly fascinating time in American

politics, life and culture. And that's what we talk about every

episode on this podcast. So please keep listening and provide as much feedback as you like.

Today we are going to be asking if we are finally on the off ramp of the Iran conflict. I say finally, but it hasn't been going on

that long. And Donald Trump is certainly talking as though the end of the conflict is nigh.

There are good reasons to be optimistic, and there's no one better to talk to about, talk to about this, than Charlie Gamal,

who is a frequent spectator, writer and author of The Pearl of Corrassan, a history of Herat.

Charlie, let's start with the Israel. There's a lot going on as ever, but this is such a complicated story at the moment because

you've got the Israel-Lebanon ceasefire, which seems to have relieved Trump. He appears to

have put a bit of pressure on the Israelis to come up with the ceasefire on Lebanon, which is a key concern for Iran and others.

Trump's talking about the uranium too, suggesting that the Iranians are willing to hand over the Iran,

which is very important for him.

But you were saying before we started that that was already something the Iranians were offering when Vance went to Pakistan.

So that has been something that the Iranians were looking to offer in the early stages of the talks.

And then the talks broke down over the sort of previous round in Islamabad, in large part due to Iran's concerns about Hezbollah.

Israel's expanding the conflict into southern Lebanon, threatening Iran's biggest ally in the region,

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