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The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

Iran’s Jacobin Revolution | Interview: Eli Lake

The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Dispatch

Politics, News

4.76.6K Ratings

🗓️ 4 February 2026

⏱️ 87 minutes

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Summary

Every once and a while, The Remnant rewards a faithful listener by bringing him on the show. Well, assuming he’s a national security expert. One such lucky listener is Eli Lake, who joins Jonah Goldberg to talk about the Shah of Iran, the Ayatollah, the current state of play in Islamic Republic, President Trump, and B.S. levels in our politics. Shownotes:—Eli’s piece: “Reza Pahlavi: Iran’s Reluctant Prince”—Eli’s Breaking History podcast—Remnant with Ken Pollack—Iranian Commander's Daughter SECRETLY Calls Radio: 'My Father Is A Monster!’—Part 1 of The Rest Is History podcast on Iran—Kermit Roosevelt’s memoir—Ross Douthat’s article on conservatism—Jonah’s response to Ross’ article The Remnant is a production of ⁠The Dispatch⁠, a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a non-partisan, conservative perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including access to all of Jonah’s G-File newsletters—⁠click here⁠. If you’d like to remove all ads from your podcast experience, consider becoming a premium Dispatch member ⁠by clicking here⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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