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IRAN: AFTER THE FALL DOWN. GREGORY COPLEY, DEFENSE & FOREIGN AFFAIRS

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 18 June 2025

⏱️ 12 minutes

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IRAN: AFTER THE FALL DOWN. GREGORY COPLEY, DEFENSE & FOREIGN AFFAIRS1906 RUSSIANS INTABRIZ

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0:00.0

This is CBS I on the World. I'm John Batchel with Gregory Copley, editor and publisher of Defense and Foreign Affairs, the author of the new book, Noble State, which we will speak at length of when we reached the King Charles III report. But first, headline, Wall Street Journal, within these hours.

0:27.0

U.S. strike on Iran among options being considered by President Trump.

0:31.3

President meeting with top advisors, situation room officials say,

0:37.4

Europe backs Israel against Iran despite anger over Gaza, says a subhead.

0:42.3

Oil tankers collide near UAE as Israel-Iran conflict disrupts shipping.

0:43.5

There are more headlines.

0:44.8

They're all alarming.

0:51.9

They're all pointing to the campaign launched last week by Israel to destroy the suspect nuclear weapons program, but mostly to decapitate not only the military,

0:56.5

but also the scientific community that was part of the Ahmad plan to weaponize the uranium ore

1:04.0

that is being processed by centrifuges, some of which have been destroyed in the initial attacks at

1:09.5

Parchen, Nisvahan, and Natanz, none of which have been destroyed in the initial attacks at Parchin, Nisvahan, and Natanz,

1:12.9

none of which have been destroyed at the Big Mountain Fordo,

1:16.5

and that is said to be the out-of-reach of the IAF and for the Americans.

1:21.6

However, that's war fighting, and we will watch it for days or weeks.

1:26.7

We don't know.

1:27.6

But I'm interested to draw up Gregory Copley, my colleague, on the day after.

1:33.5

You will recall that the U.S. has not been successful day after in Afghanistan, hence the Taliban moved back in.

1:42.3

In Iraq, hence Iraq became a client state of Iran, fragmenting the

1:49.0

nation into Kurds in the north and Shi in the south and Sunni in the west and Iran everywhere.

1:57.2

So are we looking at another situation where the U.S. is going to impose its will or Israel and the U.S. are going to impose their will and their cash spend many years of fighting in some internecine fashion and then abandon all hope. Gregory, I want to believe that Iran is different, but this is a much

2:19.4

larger nation. This is a nation of sophisticated intellectual life. This is a nation with a

2:26.0

diaspora that's vast in Europe and not unknown in America. So it is not what we would have to say was the agricultural base

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