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The Disclosure Podcast

Investigative reporter uncovers who's orchestrating the meat culture wars | In conversation with Clare Carlile

The Disclosure Podcast

Ed Winters

Ethics, Politics, Whole Foods, Society & Culture, Education, Animals, Morality, Veganism, Philosophy, Vegan, Plant Based Diet

5.01.3K Ratings

🗓️ 2 December 2025

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Meat is becoming a major battleground in the culture wars, but how and why is this happening? Investigative reporter Clare Carlile explains how far-right populists, conspiracy theorists, government departments, lobbyists and PR firms are all contributing to the push to get us to eat more meat. Clare Carlile is a journalist focussing on environmental and social issues. She is currently an investigative reporter for the award-winning environmental news outlet DeSmog. Clare earned a BA in Engli...

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The

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The Welcome to the Disclosure podcast. If you enjoy this episode and the work that I'm doing here,

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then please consider checking out my substack where I post regular articles.

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You can also support my work by becoming a paid member of my substack, through which you will also gain access to weekly articles, or by making a donation through my website.

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For those of you who do support my work, thank you so much. I am incredibly grateful and appreciate it very much.

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Just a reminder that my third book, How to Go and Stay Vegan, is now available to pre-order.

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If you do pre-order my book, then thank you so, so much. I really do appreciate it.

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Links for everything can be found in this episode's show notes.

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Leaving a review for this podcast is also really helpful and encourages more people to listen to it. I hope you find

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this episode interesting and informative and thank you for listening. Hello everyone and welcome to

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this episode of The Disclosure Podcast. On today's episode, I am delighted to be joined by Claire

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Carlisle. Claire Kyle is a journalist

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who focuses on environmental and social issues. She is currently an investigative reporter for the

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award-winning environmental news outlet DeSmog. Claire has a BA in English Literature and Languages

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from the University of Oxford. And before her work at DeSmog, she was co-editor

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at the Ethical Consumer Magazine, where she specialized in migrant workers' rights. Claire's current

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work at DeSmog often focuses on agribusiness and food politics, which is what we're going to be

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talking about today, and Claire's investigations have been covered by media outlets, including

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The Guardian, the Financial Times, and Politico.

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So, Claire, thank you so much for joining me on today's podcast.

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I would love to start with looking at the Eat Lancet Report, and more importantly, the sort of the conversation around the Eat Lancet Report.

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So I'm wondering if you could maybe talk a little bit about the report

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