I'm not here to talk about endoraic basins today, you guys. Endoraic basins are drainage basins that are

unconnected to the world's oceans. These are places a river feeds into without eventually flowing

into the ocean. Inland seas, for instance, or the occasional desert. These are endoraic basins. And

enderic basins are not the subject of today's episode. O' Contrere, quite the opposite. Today,

we're talking about all the rivers that do flow to the ocean, which is most of them, which is almost

all of them. And our discussion about rivers

flowing into the oceans is in a metaphorical sense. The rivers represent the psychological

tendencies and issues and, yes, even mental health difficulties that one experiences in life. And the ocean, well, that's your family of origin.

Follow the rivers. You'll almost certainly get to the ocean. For now, you're here. It's

DePresh Mode. I'm John Moe. I'm glad you're here. It's important, I believe, to know your own mind.

And to do that, it's necessary, I believe, to learn about how that mind got built,

which means going back and finding out what happened when you were a kid.

This is not to blame your parents or siblings for the problems that you're having, it's

just about knowing how you were formed. So you can know what you're dealing with today.

That way, if you have some problems you want to work on, you can know where the roots of those problems may be, and you can understand them better.

And this can be tricky, especially with mental health, because for a really long time, families have approached mental health with a lot of secrecy, a lot of shame, a lot of fear.

Maybe things have become a little more open here and there

in recent years, but that's very new. So getting to the truth of what happened in childhood

can involve a hell of a lot of research, a lot of asking questions, requesting records, knocking on

doors. That's what my guest this week,

Meg Kissinger did, and she uncovered a lot about her family. It helped quite a bit that Meg

happens to be one of the best investigative reporters out there, and she specializes in issues

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