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Change Agents with Andy Stumpf

Investigating a Domestic Strike: Inside the Texas Operation That Took Down Multiple 5G Towers

Change Agents with Andy Stumpf

IRONCLAD

Society & Culture

4.9648 Ratings

🗓️ 15 October 2025

⏱️ 61 minutes

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On today’s episode, Andy talks with journalist Brendan Koerner about the case of Sean Aaron Smith — a 27-year-old from Texas who set fire to 22 cell towers between 2021 and 2022. Believing 5G technology was part of a global mind-control plot, Smith’s actions were driven by conspiracy theories spread through podcasts, social media, and online communities. Brendan breaks down how misinformation and isolation led to one of the most unusual domestic terrorism cases in recent years, and what it reveals about the evolving nature of radicalization in the digital age. Change Agents is an IRONCLAD Original Firecracker Farm Use code IRONCLAD to get 15% off your first order at https://firecracker.farm/ AmmoSquared  Visit https://ammosquared.com/ today for a special offer and keep yourself fully stocked. With over 100,000 members and thousands of 5-star ratings, Your readiness is their mission. TacPack  Visit http://www.TacPack.com  and use code IRONCLAD at checkout to get a free $70 tactical gift   DeleteMe Go to https://www.joindeleteme.com/IRONCLAD and use coupon code IRONCLAD, or  scan the QR code Marek Health Take control of your health today! Head to https://www.MarekHealth.com and use code FOCALPOINT for 10% off at checkout. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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And so she really wanted to do something about this. He was someone directionless, had lost everything, needed a purpose in life.

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And he latched onto, I'm going to become a hero of this movement.

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I'm going to go out and physically attack 5G tower in Texas.

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And so he started torching them.

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Today we're going to be talking about inside attacks on 5G towers, not only here in the United States, but also globally.

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My guest today is Brendan Kerner. Brendan is an American author and journalist, currently a contributing editor at Wired. He writes in-depth stories on topics including criminal justice,

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